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Obstacles

Postby Holl1494 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:50 pm

Hello I would love to be an Actor. I still can't get an agent for some reason. I'm currenly taking acting workshops, have new headshots and will be in a play this spring or summer but that's not good enough for me. I'm also currenly seeking another Job due to my department being outsourced by the spring. Maybe you can give me some pointer's I just hate obstacles.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby tui » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:21 pm

Oh. What does 'good enough for me' look like? What are the various routes to get there? Which ones are currently open for you? Are there agents who specialise in placing actors in particular acting opportunities - such as theatre and video and tv and touring? Does your agent match your interests and intentions? As an artist-in-training, what sort of work are you looking for as you start to explore your acting strengths? What sorts of characters do you know from the inside out? Who offers those roles often enough to keep you in work and build your capacity? Examining obstacles and enquiring of them is often helpful for unravelling what's truly there. Allow the exasperation to pass, then settle to learning what's needed.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby pattyn » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:06 pm

You know, you didn't actually say what the obstacles are. Do you live in a city with many acting opportunities? Have you been able to meet with any agents? If yes, have they offered any idea what stands in your way? Have you sent your headshots out to a couple dozen of them and to casting agencies? If not, what's the obstacle to doing this? Do you have DVDs of any of your performances to send them? If not, what's in the way of creating them? The more specific your obstacles, the better we get at finding ways around them.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby Holl1494 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:28 am

Thanks for your insight and yes I sent out over 50 headshots and resumes to different agents and castind directors in the past. In my workshop I got to meet some casting directos and agents but I am still trying to get a little exposure. I have taken some new headshots that will make me stand out in different characters. I will also redo another resume and sent out more headshots to different characters and agents. I realize I have to get a lot better with my scenes and monologues. I do indeed live in NYC where Broadway in basically the mecca of the world. I'm also looking for another Job within my field wjich is Administration, Finance, or even Marketing maybe someone out there could give me any suggestions besides Networking and just sending resumes online. I realize that I still have to work harder than a lot of people to reach a new level.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby pattyn » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:14 am

Oooh, good stuff to brainstorm from. The jobs are there. The agents are there. You're meeting agents and letting others know you are available in the traditional, expected ways. And you have gotten feedback and adjusted your strategy accordingly. So, it sounds like your obstacle is standing out in a big crowd. I like the idea of getting non-acting work that keeps you in front of the folks who could hire you. Do you look like anyone famous, especially someone who might be represented in a play or movie? If so, could you make yourself known, along with a look-alike photo, on every blog, fan page, discussion of this person? Could you find a connection to help you meet this person? Is there a type of role you especially would enjoy? Can you become known for this? For example, if it is characters with a big heart, can you volunteer for small, helping organizations in a capacity that might get you featured in their publicity as a big-hearted helper? If it is horror roles, can you focus on becoming known at conventions and discussion forums for afficionados of this genre? If it's musicals, can you join a big choir in NYC, where you might meet others who perform in or cast musicals? Let us know what parts of any of those ideas appeals to you. We can give you more like it. If one is not quite right, just ask, "But what do I do about ____?" Then we can brainstorm that question. [I learned this trick from Barbara. Works wonders. A hundred times better than "tried that; didn't work" or "I could never."]
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Re: Obstacles

Postby Andreya » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:03 pm

Great ideas, Pattyn! Holl, you are so lucky to live in NY!! :) I'd suggest maybe starting out in smaller theatres, even acting for free if necessary, maybe also leading drama workshops for kids or adults as you get better, or putting up dramas with co-enthusiasts, so you become known in the smaller communities... You could even set up your own acting troupe (or join one) and maybe post videos on YouTube, with a friend or a few? Also, you might write scripts for roles/short or longer films/plays you know you could act in splendidly (you know which ones, those that come from the heart or represent important aspects of you, or say things you WANT to say!) I got a role in a high school play after the director saw my audition with self-written material (poem) that really came from the heart. (It was only high school, but he he - I think the principles apply!) Maybe you are not a 'type' they could easily cast into any of the 'roles' out there (eg blonde/glamurous/leading lady/...? but neither is Danny deVito!) so you might just write your own 'type' and 'role/s' - like Matt Damon & what's-his-name JLo's ex did?!! If you're not a writer you might also wanna hook up with a writer or a few. Maybe even a copywriter or ad agency or video studio directly, or a few? (They might need people to shoot up educational or informational videos, etc?) Also if you're eg very eco, you might offer yourself to any eco organisations/NGOs that might need volunteers for educational videos? Are you going to any improvs or such? Improvisation can widen your skills muchly! And you may find other actors for networking or making promo videos together etc?
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Re: Obstacles

Postby sibyl » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:55 pm

Holl1494, What sort of acting are you looking at? Stage? Television? Screen? Any and all of the above? For TV and film, you might consider trying to get work as an extra. Are you in the Screen Actors Guild or Equity? My understanding is that it's very difficult to get parts if your not a member, but you must have been in something (possibly put in a specific number of hours?) before you can become a member; most of the time what happens is you get a part if there is no SAG/Equity member available for the role. If your not a member of whichever of those two is applicable, that may also explain why you're having trouble getting an agent.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby Holl1494 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:14 pm

Yes Actually I feel I can play any role. I just got my headshots back and most of the pictures could fit into any role weaher it's drama, comedy, action, love, gangster or suspense. The problem is still I'm not really getting notices like I want. I understand it's very tough out there. Maybe anyone can give me some more suggestions in putting myself out there. I'm still taking classes in Acting and Theatre workshops and trying to get some type of exposure. I'm also still looking for another Job since my department is outsourcing in the spring or summer. Maybe someone can give me some pointers.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby sibyl » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:58 pm

What about imdb.com? They have a "pro" section where actors can put up their resume, photos, etc. There's probably a fee for it, but it might be worth it. The site does get a tremendous amount of traffic.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby Holl1494 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:24 am

Thank you all for your feedback and insights. I'm now taking more necessary step in this process. I'm about to take an on camera workshop and get some ree's done also I'm working with some scene partners to get better at this craft. Also as in my carrer development I have a coach helping me prepare a better resume for a new career. Other than that I wish things would get better quickly. By the way I'm involved in a reading and play this summer. Again I want to thank everyone for there views on how I can try to get into acting, become a better actor and meet different Casting Directors as well as agents.
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Re: Obstacles

Postby pattyn » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:39 pm

Still moving forward on this?
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Re: Obstacles

Postby Kelly Norman » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:02 pm

My brother and sister-in-law are both actors in New York. Not very active now; they've moved on primarily to being a mom and dad....and my brother manages some rehearsal studios. But when they were getting some jobs, they did a combination of the following: worked as couriers who occasionally brushed up with people in the biz; joined a volunteer theatre troupe that does a lot of charity work; and got jobs at the rehearsal studios my brother now helps manage. The latter two really helped in meeting other actors and finding opportunities to try out.

My guess is that there are two types of people who make it as actors: those envious right place right time types, and the ones who are hungry enough for acting that they will keep trying and trying and trying until they get that break....and don't give up. Break a leg!!!!
A lot of people struggle to find what they identify with... I crossed the piazza just once in St Petersburg, from the conservatory of music to the door of the Kirov. That was the only important journey of my life. --Valery Gergiev
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Re: Obstacles

Postby pattyn » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:26 am

Kelly, what great ideas. In so many fields, persistence combined with a few great ideas like these can work miracles.
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