So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby BarbaraSher » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:40 pm

BarbaraSher wrote:Thank you, Solinox! That's a good, kind thing to do!

I'll put something else here that was unexpectedly popular on Facebook last week. Maybe some of you will enjoy it (and want to share it even more) - don't go away....



"Answering a question from a Scanner who complains of being called 'A Jack of All Trades:"

Maybe you don't realise this but a Jack of All Trades was - and among wise people is still considered the same as 'Most Valuable Player.' Sea captains went looking for them and needed at least one on every voyage because they could do everything: they could cook if the cook was sick and use all the tools the sailors used, they could climb ropes and sew sails, and tie knots, and and speak languages, they could sing and dance and draw and cook and invent ways to polish the copper and clean the deck when they ran out of brushes. They could find ways to cook seaweed when there were no fish and knew how to approach native people's when they were shipwrecked. Jack of All Trades was a real job title, and a respected one!
So when people call you that, thank them profusely. It is a compliment. (And it's fun to confuse people who are trying to insult you.)"
~ Barbara Sher

And then someone said this: "It's the implicit 'master of none' that is disheartening."

I replied:
Not at all! People who say ‘Master of none,’ mean “Not perfect at any.” But perfection is for Obsessives or the Angels. There’s a point at which someone who loves learning stops and realises they’re in the land of diminishing returns. I’ve known more than one highly intelligent, creative person who described the writing of her PhD theses as “learning more and more about less and less.”

And the people who call you a Jack of all trades. and imply ‘master of none,’ have an agenda. That’s not just an innocent observation. It’s a comment by someone who wants to belittle you. You have to stop wondering if that’s true and start asking yourself: What would motivate someone to want to do that?

Try looking at a multi-talented person like yourself through your critic’s eyes and you might get a very unexpected insight!

Lisa K "It's a comment by someone who wants to belittle you." Thanks for exposing the hateful people for what they are
Yesterday at 3:12am

Barbara Sher You're welcome, Lisa. I don't know why so many people work so hard to pretend no one is capable of deliberately being cruel. Even people who are typically okay can be stirred to want to hurt you if something you do inadvertently creates resentment in them. Most of the time this is a resentment you can't possibly understand as coming out of your actions - because it didn't.
Yesterday at 12:52pm


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November 29 at 7:53pm ·
That feels so good! Thank you Barbara Sher for this post!

Barbara Sher
November 29 at 1:26am ·
Answering a question from a Scanner who complains of being called 'A Jack of All Trades:"

Maybe you don't realise this but a Jack of All Trades was - and among wise people is still considered the same as 'Most Valuable Player.' Sea captains went looking for them and needed at least one on every voyage because they could do everything: they could cook if the cook was sick and use all the tools the sailors used, they could climb ropes and sew sails, and tie knots, and and speak languages, they could sing and dance and draw and cook and invent ways to polish the copper and clean the deck when they ran out of brushes. They could find ways to cook seaweed when there were no fish and knew how to approach native people's when they were shipwrecked. Jack of All Trades was a real job title, and a respected one!

So when people call you that, thank them profusely. It is a compliment. (And it's fun to confuse people who are trying to insult you.)
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:44 am

BarbaraSher wrote:"And you are thinking such creative, interesting thoughts: "I started to understand a lot of things, like minimalism, because I feel enough."

Whoa. When I read that I picked up my head. I've never heard anyone say such a thing before. With your permission, I will continue to repeat some of the things you say because I'm certain that, for someone, that simple, powerful thought will change their life.


Wow, Thank you for your kind words, Barbara. It means so much for me knowing that I could inspire you too. A little thing I could do for you in return comparing to what you have done for me :D

Please you don't need any permission to share my saying, it's my tremendous honor if you could use them to help more and more undiagnosed Scanners. I'm holding nothing for myself anymore. I only wish more and more people experience the escape from their suffering and sooner in their life than mine. :D

I'm glad I write about all this. I didn't see people do it when I first writing about my feeling but it's of my interest and it doesn't matter how people respond to it. While I was being an undiagnosed Scanner I was familiar with being perceived as different and unique. :) It's fulfilling for me now to understand people on their non-Scanner reaction to things I didn't understand before. :D

I guess there is a reason I was keen on writing about all this instead of jumping into producing art piece or organize art exhibition and trying to be famous or earn more money. Or putting all my energy into making people known of my existence, being someone. I think I know writing about my transition would give me happiness. I was lucky enough that in my small society and country I have experienced some good feeling for being recognized of my Scanner skill (not the identity). Also my Asian character of which material things were emphasized less than relationship and connecting with other people. I live simply and don't have much financial ambition. I value peace and inner peace. :D That's what I could guess about why I feel strongly that I should write about this. Also the feeling that this bulletin board is a family, and I want to share and learn about the others in here, rather than spending time creating art piece for stranger to admire. :D My age and maturity also play the role, my teenage years was before internet era, of which lots of life value are different from nowadays. :D I wish I could explain more about how I feel enough due to the culture I was born with and learned during my upbringing. :D

My work experience and daily interaction with Westerner colleagues contributes to my interest and understanding in culture differences. That's how I learned that Westerner thinks lots differently. It's nothing bad or wrong. Westerner are more productive and Asian produced much less under the same circumstance. It made me smile when you said I said something you never heard before. Both my jobs at the UN and Embassy, my bosses hinted to me that it was how they like my job interview answers, something they never heard before. :D

Continue to admire you on daily basis for your mission to rescue undiagnosed Scanners, Barbara. :D Those who already survived owe you big time. Waking up knowing I'm a Scanner it's a good feeling I experience every day. :D

Thank you
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby Tituba » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:11 am

People have the power to hurt you only if you let them. If someone says to me "jack of all trades, master of none", I thank them for recognizing that I am multi-dimensional. Then I ask them what skills they have that they want to nurture so they become versatile. This flips the situation.
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:36 am

Tituba wrote:
Nay, that would ruin the game. Like reading the end of a book. The joy is in the finding.

Yes, yes, frustration along the way, that is part of the game.


Wow Tituba, thanks for your comment. It's interesting looking as life as a game which win or loose as both side of consequence. :D
I could see where you came from about suffering: What doesn't kill us make us stronger. No pain no gain. Not being trained by fighting all those frustrations, the person would be no skill.

I personally thought that the manual for a child is what is all the aptitude test is all about. The internship also. Non Scanner tried to find their life manual in the cause of trying to put the right person in the right place. The only start living after you win the game in finding out who I am and the waste of life and energy fighting suffering. The potential lost to the game in never found out I am a scanner is so scary for me. :)

I like that your idea got me thinking, what would happen if I would have known that I'm a scanner when I was 10, 25, 35 instead of 42.
What would I have done with all the energies I spent fighting suffering, with the attitude toward people differently. Would I have just let my life passed by as thinking nothing wrong with me and not practice drawing, painting, writing. :)

I don't know but thanks for interesting aspects. :D :D
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:07 am

solinox wrote:I just shared it on my Facebook page, just because you said that, Barbara. !!"


Thank you Solinox, you are amazing and much better than me on this. I tried by observing people who has many interests and complained that they have no time, then tried talking about the book. So far those people didn't accept that they have problem with that or seeking way out of their frustration. They seems to let the anger/frustration out on facebook and then back to produce something.

May be I just try your way. Simply said "this is a wonderful book that change my life" then let people wonder about it, thanks for inspiration. :)
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:35 am

Dear Barbara,

Interesting aspects about Jack of all trades, thank you. I didn't experience much because I force myself to stay in job and maintain my spot in the diver world. That has protected me from being labeled as Jack of all trades in general. People in general misunderstood that I'm a master of what I work mainly and then learned that I am interested in many things which they think is a plus. :)

If I ever start living a Scanner life in full and not doing any good enough job, I may be called Jack of all trades too but then I already knew that I'm a Scanner and would be confident enough not to feel hurt when people say that. Being called Jack of all trade and not knowing I'm a Scanner sounds scary for me. :) However I plan to ignore those who try to belittle me with my own fulfillment. :) People should not let what the others think about them affect them, they should let it be the thinker's problem. :)

Your book explained clearly how if we would have been born during Da Vinci period, we would be respected by the society. The diver, mater of one particular skill would be regarded only as a craftsman. I can't imagine how my life would be if I were born in that period that Jack of all trades would be in a higher position. Wow, Life would have been easier. :D No need to sweat disguising myself among the diver (and for a living):)
Nowadays people immediately respect physician, PH D. doctor or if you could name your specialty, they would be suddenly ok with who you are and talk to you with respect. :) Your book helps me realize that it's not my fault and it's just a timing on the world's trend. :)
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby BarbaraSher » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:47 pm

Tituba wrote:People have the power to hurt you only if you let them. If someone says to me "jack of all trades, master of none", I thank them for recognizing that I am multi-dimensional. Then I ask them what skills they have that they want to nurture so they become versatile. This flips the situation.


Well, looks good. Might work, Tituba. I think it's a great comeback. But let me be the devil's advocate:

What if they say: "I don't want to become what you call 'versatile.' I want to know how to do something well and get paid for it." ?
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby BarbaraSher » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:53 pm

Nowadays people immediately respect physician, PH D. doctor or if you could name your specialty, they would be suddenly ok with who you are and talk to you with respect. :) Your book helps me realize that it's not my fault and it's just a timing on the world's trend.

Exactly, NowIKnow. And it's changing, little by little.

In fact, I think I'll open a discussion about something I'm trying to do and can't figure out how to: an app that sends a free daily message to Scanners. (But I never saw an app that did that, so I don't know how to design the message, how long to make it, etc.)
I'm hoping people will show it to their friends who are upset about not picking one thing -- that is: undiagnosed Scanners.

Maybe I'll have an occasional link to the YouTube videos about Scanners at What Do I Do When I Want To Do Everything Barbara Sher, in case they want more. Something right away is so much easier than buying and reading a book first thing. I want undiagnosed Scanners to have an easy time figuring out who they are.
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:28 pm

Dear Barbara,

I fully admire and support your mission in saving the undiagnosed Scanner. It will help rescue their souls. Once diagnosed, I started to notice people with the pattern of my life in the past, those who could do one piece of art people like, then wouldn’t produce the same thing to show on facebook again. They often show the new kind of work instead. They also often complained how they have no time and want to seriously make money. They all sounds like an undiagnosed scanner. I feel sorry for them. I knew the frustration behind their facebook status and it’s painful to see them struggle. I hope with all my heart for them to learn to accept themselves the way I have learned.

Your mission reminds me about the Starfish story from the movie “Holy Man” starred by Eddie Murphy. The story which inspired me to change my job for the first time to work for NGO distributing medicine in the poor migrant fisherman camp in the southern part of my country. In the movie, he told the story that
“There was a storm, and thousands and thousands of starfish were washed up on the shore. And there was this beautiful little girl running down the beach picking up the starfish. She was frantically throwing them back into the ocean. When I saw her doing this. I said to her, “why are you doing that?” You can only save a few before they die. What difference does it make?” and she looked at me and she said “to that one, it makes a difference”.. “to that one, it makes a difference” .

I love the story. Just feel like sharing the story here. At this point I’m not quite sure what I should or shouldn’t write on this forum. So I just write from my heart. After all, I feel like I am a starfish you have saved.

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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby BarbaraSher » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:14 am

NowIknow wrote:Dear Barbara,

I fully admire and support your mission in saving the undiagnosed Scanner. It will help rescue their souls. Once diagnosed, I started to notice people with the pattern of my life in the past, those who could do one piece of art people like, then wouldn’t produce the same thing to show on facebook again. They often show the new kind of work instead. They also often complained how they have no time and want to seriously make money. They all sounds like an undiagnosed scanner. I feel sorry for them. I knew the frustration behind their facebook status and it’s painful to see them struggle. I hope with all my heart for them to learn to accept themselves the way I have learned.


That's something I wouldn't have noticed, NowIknow. Thank you for turning a light on it. I've spoken to such people and heard the kind of lectures they almost invariably get from people in their own field: you'll never make a name for yourself unless you narrow down to one style, etc.
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:37 am

Thank you Barbara, that's true. That's how I got into every career of my life because people said so and I would try to be Jack of all trades in every job I did. Though my bosses appreciated it but I sensed sometime they want me to be a specialist. I experienced my boss started giving me deeper and deeper level/ assignment of work in order to ask me to be a diver in my main function (while he appreciated my knowledge in other aspect of work in the office). However, I then disappointed him by refusing to do it since I've already got my reward, and it was heavy to go deeper with subject when I didn't want to. Being Jack of all trade in the office is exhausting enough. :)

In the office aside from main function, I was the event organizer, event MC, art/creative focal point, gift committee, birthday committee, farewell committee, researcher, country situation reporter, of which I enjoy because I'm interested. When my boss wanted me to take main social worker function courses/advance courses with the organization's institute, I tried to avoid :D I wanted to spend my time on other issue instead. :o

I really admire your solution in the book, Learn, try, teach, leave. It' would be my main goal in finding my next job.

Thank you, NowIknow :D
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby Andrew_ » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:00 pm

NowIknow wrote:I love the story. Just feel like sharing the story here. At this point I’m not quite sure what I should or shouldn’t write on this forum. So I just write from my heart. After all, I feel like I am a starfish you have saved.


I know you wrote that a few weeks ago, NowIKnow, but I can't help but be really touched by your authenticity. That would be so beautiful if everyone just spoke from their hearts, all the time...
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby NowIknow » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:42 am

Dear Andrew_

Thanks for reading and for your comment. I'm touched too that someone noticed it. :) I'm sure people spoke from their hearts too, I can feel it.

Not sure about anyone else but for me this is family. I speak and write as if I talk to family member, no holding back, and I don't expect anything in response. Anything will all be a plus. This is a place for me to write a testimony of my Scanner life. I will continue to write regardless. When I first wrote this topic I thought it was too long, no one would read it anyway but I kept going.

I can't find anywhere where people who understand Scanner and its struggling like this place. The family is someone who know and accept one another. The family member don't have to like each other, as long as they still remember that they are siblings and belong to each other in a family.

I hope people know how wonderful it feel to be connected to their authentic self every day, it's truly a freedom. Before I knew I'm a Scanner I lived and suffered through confusion every day for forty years. I could get by on other aspects of life but this lack of understanding why I have so many interests and couldn't finish or focus on any of them in particular just kill me a little bit everyday. The fact that that feeling is gone made me feel thankful enough to the person who made it happen, Barbara made me understand because she care enough to make people understand. Other Scanner might have discovered that they are Scanner by their natural talent but they will do something else useful for them rather than helping people to understand their Scanner personality and be free like Barbara did. :)

There are cultural filter and language barrier for me in this forum as English is my second language and Asian is my culture.

Thanks again for your comment :D
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Re: So excited about the newly discovered life as a scanner

Postby Andrew_ » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:35 pm

Dear NowIknow...

That's quite a bit of hard times you've gone through... =/ I'm happy that much of your suffering has been relieved. Barbara is such a benefactor to so many people. And the good souls in this community are lifesavers.
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