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Re: Do you know any Introvert Scanners?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:50 pm
by canyonsky
Hi Barbara and all,

I'm new to the forum and a bit late to this discussion. This posting not only covers introvert scanner, but also includes an introduction to my job history and my quest for your advise. It's long and thanks for reading.

I'm an INTJ, serial specialist, highly sensitive Aquarian. I enjoy working in a quiet environment on my own on projects that require planning, thinking and problem solving. I hate working on administrative type of tedious work or being interrupted every 5 or 10 minutes. I can only throw a party once a year, maximum, and dislike going to parties because I don't know how to do small talks and parties drain my energy. I have few friends whom I can have deep conversations with for hours at a time, but we don't talk often and that's fine with me. I'm fine without speaking to anyone for days. I live with an introvert and we talk everyday.

I easily get bored with routines. My business administration degree gave me opportunities to try many different jobs. At 23, I was lucky enough to have a boss who knew how to use me (after I'd complained how boring my Business Analyst job assignments were). She gave me different assignments and took me along to rescue various companies, so by 29 I've done setting corporate/department goals, marketing, training (planned, hired instructors and I gave training as well), job evaluations, copy writing, translating an English book to Chinese, auditing, etc. I also knew I can't work in a manufacturing plant because of noise; I don't like marketing because I can't sell anything that I don't like; I dislike boring accounting/auditing.

After I got my MBA in the United States, I became a statistical programmer because I'm good at data and love the instant reward of solving problems and generating results (not good at and dislike statistics). I also enjoyed designing stand-alone data entry system in Visual Basic because I'm a visual person. Luckily I worked in the pharmaceutical industry for about 14 years and saved a good amount of money (I was a top performer company wide and often received extra bonuses for exceeding personal goals). My boss wanted to promote me to be a manager, but I refused as soon as I learned that I needed to be 24/7 on call (no freedom to enjoy my life).

When the same old programming didn't excite me anymore, I quit at 46. Then I set up my first English blog and wrote everyday for 8+ hours for a year (not many readers but I just enjoyed writing); painted a few paintings since grade school; had a trip to Asia for 4 months; was a Redfin associate agent for 1+ year (I was very curious about interior design--had completed an interior design program--and everything about architecture and can't believe I'd get paid by showing houses--but cookie cutter houses lost my interest eventually); was a foreclosure housing counselor for 6 months (can't stand the low energy, i.e. entitlement, from the distressed homeowners and the workplace but fulfilled my curiosity of being a counselor).

Then I became a Business System Analyst for clinical trial data entry systems (I don't know web programming). Since it's a coordinating job and I needed to deal with many people who didn't do their work by deadlines (I have never missed a deadline before), plus increasing administrative tasks, it drained my energy a lot. After 2+ years I quit at 51, right after the company promoted me. I just can't stand a job that I don't have fun with.

At this point, I don't know what I can do. I still have tons of energy, but no companies responded to my job applications (I want to change to a new industry). I have ideas about stories, but I don't know who would want to read some of them; some don't have a plot yet; my writing skills are not that great. I always believe life is adventure, life is change. And I embrace my life. However, now I need your help to advise me on what I can do to serve the world, my endless curiosity, and my need to expand my experiences.

Any advise is welcome and appreciated! Have a wonderful week!

Re: Do you know any Introvert Scanners?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:57 pm
by Elaine Glimme
HI, Canyonsky,

Wow, you've done so many things!

If you enjoy writing, well that's something you can do without anyone hiring you. So you could start a writing project - just because you want to - and if it gets published, and wonderful things happen so much the better.

We're not supposed to discriminate because of age, but people do it. And that may be what's happened to you.

Concerning getting a job, you've done so many things, you could tailor your resume to the job you're applying for - in other words write the resume emphasizing your experience that dovetails into the job you want, and leave out or minimize the bits that really don't apply.

That's all I have. Good luck.

p.s. I'm an introvert too. I took a class once about how to make small talk because I was so bad at it. I still don't like it, but the class did help. If you're interested, I'll post some of the things I learned there.

Re: Do you know any Introvert Scanners?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:33 pm
by canyonsky
Hi Elaine,

Thanks for your advise! As a matter of fact, right after I submitted my post a writing idea came to me which might benefit many people and I've been working on it the whole day. :)
It will be great if you could post some tips for small talks. I'll appreciate it!

Thank you and have a good night!

Re: Do you know any Introvert Scanners?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:08 pm
by Elaine Glimme
Tips on small talk:

The point of small talk is to become comfortable with the person you're talking to and find interests that you have in common that are more meaningful than small talk.

Come to a party with ideas to talk about - travel, projects, books, movies, food, (I hate it, but politics), the arts, music, health, and so on. And do interesting things in your life so you'll have good stories to tell.

You can start a conversation with a three point approach. Make a blanket statement, say something about yourself, and ask a question that can't be answered by yes or no. Example: I'm really enjoying this workshop. The presentation on electronics in art was the most relevant for me because I'm a graphic designer. What interested you the most?

If you and the person you're talking to just don't have anything in common, move on. It happens.

Body language is important. If your face is completely relaxed, you could be frowning. Also of course you don't want to have a simpering smile on your face, but there's a happy medium. In the class i took, there was a woman, and my first impression was - no exaggeration - "she looks dangerous. I wouldn't want to meet her alone in an alley. She probably won't like me." Then we talked about smiling, and she smiled, and I thought, "yes, I'd like to get to know her."

Don't hog the conversation, but don't be so quiet that the person you're with has to carry the whole load.

This one is obvious, but be considerate. If someone has just suffered a loss, he/she might not want to talk. If someone is really shy, he/she might need some extra help from you. try to pick up the clues from their body language. And you can gently ask, "Do you want to talk about it, or would you rather just go on to something else?"

If you're a writer, it's tricky, because what can you say? "Well. I sat at my computer for two hours and then made a cup of tea . . ." But if you meet another writer, - bingo! You can talk about where you get your ideas, what your characters are doing, the places where your stories are happening. Do you belong to a writers' group? Have done Nanowrimo? Have you tried marketing? etc. That's where the conversation moves from small talk to something meaningful.

That's all I can think of right now.

Re: Do you know any Introvert Scanners?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:42 am
by johngalt47
This is my first post and in an appropriate space too!

I am an introverted scanner to an extent. I got retired last year and now I know why I was so frustrated all those years working as a designer and engineer at a petro/chemical engineering company.

I can talk in front of a group if I am speaking on a subject I love because I will have immersed myself in that subject. However, I don't want to speak on something I am not interested in.

On the other hand, I can join in on many conversations because I have dabbled in many subjects, at least to the point that I can give my two cents.

Re: Do you know any Introvert Scanners?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:44 pm
by elarue
I've known I was an introvert since I was 14 (I'm 40 now), but I just now discovered about scanners, so I don't know how to compare introverted scanners to extroverted scanners. But I will say I'm an INFJ, whose description always talks about a "rich inner life," which probably influenced my scanning propensity, as I'm always thinking about all sorts of different things that I don't necessarily talk about, and I'm jumping from one train of thought to another all the time.

In some cases, I even find myself wanting to learn more about certain aspects of a project I'm envisioning that I don't have a specialty in because it taps into my innate need to mentally connect all the pieces of the puzzle together, even if it would be more efficient to just build a team around me and have someone else handle those areas I don't have expertise in.

Do other introverted scanners agree?