How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

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How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby BethS » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:33 am

Do you have any tips for letting go of the drive to make money from every interest?

I've spent a number of years attempting to find my "thing" and monetize it. As a Scanner, I have lots of "things".

Along the way it seems like I've attempted to monetize EVERYTHING I like doing - and if I don't actively attempt to sell it, I brainstorm how I could.
Then the next interest (ie. possible income stream) catches my eye and I'm off running towards that one - planning, dreaming, creating another website...etc.

I've finally got to the point where I can't take the pressure I've put on myself to monetize everything. I just want a steady paycheck and to not have to think about work when I'm home. So, I'm going back to a J-O-B that seems like it will be a "good enough job".... for now anyway.

Perhaps with the job and reliable income, the desire and urgency to make money from my interests will drop off?

Any thoughts/suggestions are appreciated :)

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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Tituba » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:19 pm

This is like if someone forbid you from eating chocolate, then ALL you think about is chocolate. When you don't have enough money to feel safe, then it is natural to focus on income. Start writing down these ideas you have for all the income streams. Maybe one will stick. You could always teach adult ed and teach others how to create income streams.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby BarbaraSher » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:27 am

Hi Beth

Tituba's idea is really inspired! It might do the trick:

1) first, as you suggested, get a good-enough job, short hours, decent pay, short commute, no crazy people eating your brains.Don't worry if it's boring - just get it done fast in that case. Or use some talent (communication, organising) to do some showing off and get some admiration for. That makes it a great good-enough job.

2) then start teaching how to monetise everything! That's what I mean by Tituba's idea being brilliant. You really could do it: at an adult ed organization or through your church or local community college or independently. You won't have to advertise (it doesn't work anyway) if you let people see how clever you are at a restaurant or coffeeshop via Meetup.com. (Take a look at all the opportunities in your town no matter where you are! and then add your own Meetup.com meeting. When people show up at the coffee shop, tell them about your - um - Saturday afternoon classes w/ brainstorming on How To Monetize Everything You Love To Do. :-) Or your Wednesday Evening Telephone classes ($35 a shot or X dollars for a series of 4!)

3) And then you might be free to start thinking about Love. When you have a child or you get a puppy or you grow a gorgeous rose, if you no longer get pushed away from the joy by your need to make a profit, you'll feel all the love that's natural in you for that thing. That's true of anything you enjoy doing. You haven't been letting yourself bask in the luxury of doing what you love, with no other justification than that is simply feels so wonderful.

Be ready for some surprises: It may be that, for some reason in your past you may not have thought about, you've forbidden yourself that kind of happiness, but you'll never find out unless you first do number 1) and then number 2) so that you're free to do 3.

Hopefully, you'll find yourself enjoying life like never before. But if you find yourself tightened or pulling away from simple, purpose-free enjoyment, come back here and tell us, and I'll be glad to help you work your way through it and make that feeling disappear. I know how to do that.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Quadira » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:47 pm

I love these suggestions! Holding the vision that you find what you need!
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Elaine Glimme » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:07 pm

I just want to put in a plug for the good-enough job. Yes, some jobs are truly awful, but most are okay, and some are good or great. I had two with enough variety to satisfy most scanners. The thing about a good enough job, it doesn't close doors, it opens them. With a steady paycheck, you have money for art supplies, singing lessons, a trip to France, or whatever else is on your scanner list. Also, it takes the pressure off of the dreams. If your wish is to be a singer, for example, and you have to earn a living at it, you have to be very good and very lucky RIGHT NOW. If you have a good enough job, you can sing for fun, make a few dollars in coffee houses or at weddings, and work your way up to the big dream. And if you get tired of singing and want to do something else, oh well, no problem.

That's my two cents worth.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Louie5 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:13 am

This is my very issue! I cannot let myself just enjoy the things I have learned to do because I am literally making myself nuts trying to figure out a way to turn everything I do into a money stream. I go so far as to not even accepting the possibility of a modest income stream either. I have to put that extra pressure on to make enough money to pay off bill A ... then bill B... then pay off the mortgage... then how much money would it take to give my husband everything he wants and to make him happy? Well, that just kicks the "nuts" up to the next level.

Did I mention the guilt?

Because of health issues, I cannot work out side of the home. Here I can protect my environment and myself, OUT THERE, I cannot. So after reading through this thread, I have decided that in order to become effective, I first have to give up the guilt. Then, I think I need to try to retrain my thinking. I am going to take an idea.... just one basic, hopefully idiot-proof, idea, and think about finding a way to make money from it. Then, whenever I start to go where I have to monetize any other project, I am going to get up and do something. Move around. Find a book. Put new magazines in the bathroom...ANYTHING that will keep my mind from going there. Because, I believe that if i can make myself less nuts, maybe I can be successful at the one thing.

What do you think? I believe maybe it could work.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby NowIknow » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:04 am

Dear Beth,

I just want to be here to say I understand how you feel. I used to feel like only if I make money from my hobbies it would be both income increase and the proof of success in the eyes of other. For the world which admire specialist a.k.a diver only what is profitable could be counted as the real thing. I hope you read the above comments and feel better knowing a solution.

Even before I knew I am a scanner I'm glad I was into a concept of good enough job by myself. I never dared to quit job and do what I like since I know I only have passion but business need management/marketing skill to make my passion profitable which I doubt I have. I ended up changing job every three- five years but I've been constantly working (except for a wonderful 6 months) in the past twenty years. At the end of each job I suffered boredom severely. It was a good job with a top organization but I was never motivated enough to push myself up to a higher management level. Only this current job that I've been staying ten years now because it is involved with social service cases which changed everyday and with many very fascinating stories.Still I only stay at good enough level in the job.

My points are:
- Jobs gives me freedom to do many of my interests after all the bills are paid.
- I tend to not spend money on expensive items/entertainment/trips or any real estate loans in order to reduce financial burden. I know that when I'm home I happy doing my craft and could be happily occupied without costly activities/stuffs. Those things are for a non-Scanner who needs to be entertained by outside factors. It's also because I know I would not be able to push myself to be in a higher paid position in the organization cause I need my time to do something else that I love beside my job.
- I think to teach others is the way to make money out of a Scanner's life, it fit scanner character. I tried to make product for sale and it failed since I only interested in making one piece. As a Scanner we would feel the second piece is a waste of time when there are other thousand things we need to learn.
- Last, since I read the book and understand my career habit. I started teaching my colleagues everything I know about the job and that makes my time in the office tolerable.

Now I don't think of making money from my craft at all, knowing that I couldn't. Though I hear people say you should sell your piece of art quite often. :)

I typed this from my mobile. My apology for any error typo. I'm not sure it could help but just want to offer direct experience :)
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby emspace » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:31 pm

Hi Beth,

Hope you’re still coming back to read these responses!

I’m in the same boat as NowIKnow: I have a Good Enough Job that makes the rest of my Scanner life work really really well. I even get to be a bit of a Scanner at work, which is a bonus.

I’ve also been trying to make money as a photographer for years, and I’ve realized a few things that apply to me:

  • I’m not good at running a business. There are parts of being a business owner that are really unappealing to me and I hate doing those activities. I hate them because I’m incompetent at them and I have no energy to do them. But someone needs to do them, otherwise the business collapses. This would be okay if I could get a partner on board who loves doing those parts I hate, freeing me up to do the parts I love. So far, no offers. :wink:
  • I’m over-entitled from my day job, to the point that charging less per hour than what I get at work is … rubbing up against my entitlement. :roll: Yeah, I have to get over myself, because even I don’t think my photography is worth my hourly rate. But if I don’t get paid that much, it just seems like I’m taking on too many things I don’t want to do in order to do the very narrow thing that I do want to do.
  • I’m not dedicated enough to photography alone to put in my 10,000 dedicated hours to get to master level at it. I’m just too much of a Scanner to focus that much attention to one thing for long enough that it makes a huge difference in my skill level. It’s taken me 30 years to get somewhat good enough to charge some money for what I do, but…I’m still not better than some people who’ve focused 6 years of their lives at it. Photography is not all I want to do with my time and energy.

To sum up, I think not monetizing photography for me offers more opportunities as a Scanner. Focusing on making money from my interests puts far too much pressure on me and ultimately takes the fun out of those activities, never mind forcing me into activities I don’t want to spend my time on.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Elaine Glimme » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:40 pm

I agree with all of the above. Our culture puts way too much emphasis on making money as a yardstick for success. Stupid TV shows about money, money, and more money are an example. I've loved my good-enough jobs, and I've done some interesting things on the job, but the things I'm most proud of haven't made any money for me. Also, I know some amazing people whom I would call heroes and they aren't rich. In fact some have very little money; they're just great people.

Hi, emspace. How are you?
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby NowIknow » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:04 am

I wish I have read the book in my twenties, I would have kept my better enough job ^^ :D
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby SquarePeg » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:55 pm

At this point I think the poem "What Teachers Make" by Taylor Mali is worth injecting into this discussion.

If you'd rather experience it on YouTube instead of in print, try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGKm201n-U4
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby emspace » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:31 pm

Elaine Glimme wrote:Hi, emspace. How are you?


Hi, Elaine! I’m very well, but still a bit overwhelmed with unfinished projects. :roll: When am I never?

Good news, which I should post under my Photographers Without Borders thread: I’m going to be in the next PWB magazine that is launching on Nov 1! I’ll send links and so forth when they’re up.

BTW, and relevant to the thread: Didn’t make a dime off this project! :lol: But it was absolutely still worth doing and I’d do it again if I thought I could raise another $2000 easily!
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Elaine Glimme » Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:39 pm

Thanks for posting, emspace. I was hoping for some news. I enjoyed the Facebook video of the elephant and you. And yes, I'm looking forward to reading about your experience in Botswana.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby Tituba » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:00 pm

Sometimes people have ideas and they don't want to share them because they are afraid someone will "steal" them. I'm a firm believer that not all ideas you have for income streams were meant for you. Sometimes you are the messenger. The ideas you have that were meant for you will resonant so deep in your bones, there will be no doubt. Don't torment yourself with all the "Hey, here's another idea...wonder if this would work...." Write those down and someone will cross your path with whom you become their hero.
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Re: How to NOT have to make money from Everything!

Postby MaryThompson63 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:57 am

You could always write an ebook about how to monetize everything (or whatever else you are interested in). That way you could work from home and study whatever you want, but still create an potential income stream from your research.
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